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Title: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Rachael on Apr 27 2009 - 01:19PM
Hi Everyone!
It sounds as if our Villisca trip is going to yield some nice evidence.  Post what you've got here :)  We had several personal experiences, good conversations via Brianna's dowsing rods, a REMARKABLE temperature drop that occurred with a series of spikes from Matt's K2 meter and a personal experience of Marions.  There is a LOT to go over :)  There were thunderstorms on and off all night, which was pretty sweet.  It was freezing.  I don't believe there was any activity with the closet door in the upstairs kids room, but the balls were busy!  I have a bunch of audio to go through, and I need to look at my pictures closer, but these two jumped out at me.  What do you see?

Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: nothingtoseehere on Apr 27 2009 - 01:26PM
Something is very funky in the upstairs window of both pix, but mainly the first one. 
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Colleen2510 on Apr 27 2009 - 01:42PM
I'm not sure Racheal. In the first one I kinda of thought that there could be a little girl in the upstairs window on the end of the house but it's not clear. The first one does seem a little screwy in that front window that nothingtoseehere is talking about but when you magnify it that goes away. It's odd that there seems to be scribbling on the window but that's all that I could find. So tell us what are you seeing?
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ghost1 on Apr 27 2009 - 01:48PM
Looks like something in the pantry window in both pictures?     cho


I have quite bit to post too, but I'm having a little computer problem at the moment and I can't get this posted yet..........I will as soon as I can.

However It's just like Rachel said, there was quite a bit of activity at times, including a 20 degree temp drop in less then a minute??
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Rachael on Apr 27 2009 - 01:54PM
I see something in the pantry window in each picture too.  The pantry window is the little square window on the first floor.  I have another one.. here it is...

The top right window in the first picture posted looks to me like a woman in profile, reaching her right arm up, almost as if she was hanging something on the wall.  I don't see the scribbling that you see Colleen, where is that?
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Rachael on Apr 27 2009 - 01:56PM
p.s... these were the first pictures I took after we left the cemetery, we were just putting stuff in the garage and hadn't gone into the house yet.  Maybe we were being 'scoped out' :)
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Colleen2510 on Apr 27 2009 - 02:08PM
I see that now! Kewl!  :Y:

The scribbling that I kind of see would be in the second story window were the lace curtains are in the front. It's probably nothing.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: nothingtoseehere on Apr 27 2009 - 03:08PM
I also see the strange affect in the pantry window, but I wasn't sure if it was a reflection.  Compelling stuff, no doubt.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Fiestyredd9 on Apr 27 2009 - 08:22PM
Rachael that is sweet. There were cold drops all over the house alot in the parlor while you guys we're upstairs. Did you guys try the meter downstairs too? I don't remember. Allen found something in the upstairs window from when we first got there right after the cemetary too. I will post as soon as I can.   =D>
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Rachael on Apr 27 2009 - 08:27PM
Excellent, post that orange light in the living room too!
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Fiestyredd9 on Apr 27 2009 - 09:06PM
OK I will I want to email you a pick its dark and i want you to make it brighter slowly and tell me what you see, Itook it at night while we we're out in the barn. Al see's something totally different than I do. Hos do I post pics on here? 
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Fiestyredd9 on Apr 27 2009 - 09:17PM
Here is the light Rachael. And the one from the creepy attic you wanted to see.
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Post by: Fiestyredd9 on Apr 27 2009 - 09:24PM
Oh the weird light thing was about 1 am while you guys were taping upstairs.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Jeepgirlgina on Apr 27 2009 - 10:54PM
I am soooooooo jealous.  The pictures are great.  I have to say the pantry windows caught my attention right away.  I  can't wait for more pics and of course your stories.  I am glad you all made it back in one piece.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ghost1 on Apr 27 2009 - 11:50PM
I'm still having a computer & internet problem..........so I haven't even gone through most  of my stuff yet.  However here is one pic of the house taken in IR.

(http://www.bachelors-grove.com/Villisa_IR.jpg)

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Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ghost1 on Apr 28 2009 - 12:13AM
 Well here is a interesting one...especially from me.  It's a Orb and you all know how I love Orb's (sarcasm)
However if you have read all my posts and information about Orb's you will see that this has NONE of the fake Orb features.....no rings, no corona effect or nothing at all that points to a environmental Orb.

This was the second to last picture I took as we where getting ready to leave the house.... And I said out loud  "this is your last chance if you want to show your self"   What do you think did they???  cho


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Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ghost1 on Apr 28 2009 - 12:18AM
For those of you interested in history, here is the grave marker for the whole Moore family and the original newspaper from June 1912 about the murders.


(http://www.bachelors-grove.com/Moore.jpg)

(http://www.bachelors-grove.com/paper.jpg)



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Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ro on Apr 28 2009 - 01:12AM
Very interesting..... cho
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ro on Apr 28 2009 - 01:17AM
Great pic ghost...wow..how cool is that.    :Y:
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Marion76 on Apr 28 2009 - 08:09PM
I've been listening to some of our EVP sessions. This is the first one that popped out at me. We were in the upstairs childrens' bedroom. Let me know what you think it is. It's right after I ask "Is Herman here?".
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: mattevp on Apr 28 2009 - 10:04PM
the orb looks pretty convincing, nice catch, looks like we all got some good evidence. The funny thing is december 29th is my birthday, same as jos b moore. :Y:
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: mattevp on Apr 28 2009 - 10:07PM
i didnt finish, the funny thing is he has the same birthday, i get a males voice (EVP)calling my name, and when i slept alone downstairs i had a crazy ass dream about the father who was murdered. weird huh??
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Fiestyredd9 on Apr 28 2009 - 10:46PM
Matt that  crazy indeed.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Fiestyredd9 on Apr 28 2009 - 10:51PM
Ok to add to rachaels creepy pantry window pic here is a pic I took at night same window and it is crystal clear like we cleaned it!
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Colleen2510 on Apr 29 2009 - 04:26PM
FiestyRedd I really luv that picture. Not only does it show the pantry window crystal clear but I see at least one of the children's face looking out of the front door. I don't see it unless I look at it with magnification and when that happens I never seem to get anyone else to see it. But if anyone is interested that is what i see so if you want to check it out for yourself let me know what ya think.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ghost1 on Apr 29 2009 - 05:15PM
Here is Matt's video that has the ball moving by it's self as I sit in the room.  There is also a EVP that calls Matt's name.   =D>

http://www.bachelors-grove.com/vallisca_ball.flv (http://www.bachelors-grove.com/vallisca_ball.flv)
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Colleen2510 on Apr 29 2009 - 05:32PM
OK that ball rolling is A-Maze-Zing!! I can't believe I missed this trip  :^(   

And I don't know how I missed that pic of your orb this a little bit ago Ghost1. That definitely is the type of orb that I like to see pics of.  But now even though FiestyRedd's orb pics do look like the typical environmental orb it is uncanny the way that they are lined up against that wall. All the same looking except they look as if there is an older child and next to that is a younger child and next to that an even younger child and the last one ...sitting down maybe.  Anyway I luv that pic as well.

Ghost your orb looks as though it's in motion doesn't it?  Great work you guys!  che
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Rachael on May 01 2009 - 06:57AM
Marion, I can't open your file, do you know what program I should use?  I don't know jack squat about audio  :V:

Matt... that was definitely NOT John saying your name!
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ghost1 on May 01 2009 - 10:07PM
Here are a few more pictures, just random stuff..........The barn, the creepy attic where the killer hid the kitchen and a few in Infrared of the outside of the house.



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Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Jeepgirlgina on May 01 2009 - 10:21PM
OK Ghost I like your Orb!!!!!!  And Matts video.....WOW AWESOME.  You guy really caught great stuff
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Tenbears on May 03 2009 - 03:42PM
I like to see things move when they are not so close to a doorway ya know
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Colleen2510 on May 03 2009 - 04:03PM
Infrared is so creepy! Oh and I see now that those aren't orbs in the attic there. I was looking at the pics in a hurry cuz I wanted to comment on them b4 I had to leave. Guess I shoulda waited till I got back and had more time. That's embarrassing  emb 

BTW I have listened to Matt's EVP over and over and I just don't think it's Ghost1 talking cause I hear his voice come in under that voice I'm pretty sure.  What do you think Ghost1? Do you think it sounds like your voice or what?
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ghost1 on May 03 2009 - 06:38PM
Infrared is so creepy! Oh and I see now that those aren't orbs in the attic there. I was looking at the pics in a hurry cuz I wanted to comment on them b4 I had to leave. Guess I shoulda waited till I got back and had more time. That's embarrassing  emb 

BTW I have listened to Matt's EVP over and over and I just don't think it's Ghost1 talking cause I hear his voice come in under that voice I'm pretty sure. 
What do you think Ghost1? Do you think it sounds like your voice or what?


No, That's not me...I'm 100% sure!
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ghost1 on May 04 2009 - 08:19AM
Here is Matt's new video from Vallisca that night..............   =D>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut_JhXpMtog&feature=channel_page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut_JhXpMtog&feature=channel_page)
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ro on May 04 2009 - 08:56AM
Great vid Matt!   Nice work!!  :Y: 
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Colleen2510 on May 04 2009 - 09:42AM
These are some great EVP's!! Made all the more exciting because they were captured by a group of people that I trust completely. It doesn't get much better than this in the search for paranormal evidence.  :victory:
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Marion76 on May 04 2009 - 03:49PM
the orb looks pretty convincing, nice catch, looks like we all got some good evidence. The funny thing is december 29th is my birthday, same as jos b moore. :Y:
It's funny, Matt. My birthday is the same as Herman's. LOL!
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Marion76 on May 04 2009 - 03:58PM
Matt! I LOVE the new video! And I definitely hear a little girl saying Lena after I did. There is something after it but I can't tell what it's saying. It sounds like a male voice. I've been having nightmares about the murders. They started Thursday night. I keep seeing 2 little girls and I wake up feeling terrified. Almost as if I were there with them. They were hiding. I want to go back to that house again soon. Who's with me?  :victory:
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Rachael on May 04 2009 - 04:09PM
Good stuff Matt, I'm psyched to see that footage of the ball from earlier!
Your last EVP... I am not sure what you hear there, but I hear my voice after you say 'probably', it sounds a bit garbled but I think it's all me.  I am going to listen to my recordings to see if I have it as well, and if I can make it out.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ghost1 on May 04 2009 - 07:21PM
I'm still trying to get what video I have posted, and I haven't even had a chance to see over two hours of it yet at all (my main PC is still acting up)

However on the part I saw, Matt's K2 meter went nuts as the train passed through town in the middle of the night.  There are quite a few stories of how the house seems to reenact the crime late at night as the train go's though...It is thought that the murders where done as the train went through town to cover the sounds??

Either way I'll post as soon as I can.
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Post by: scaryd on May 04 2009 - 08:10PM
That was awesome Matt thank you for sharing . the last sounds something about getting revenge. =D>
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Post by: mattevp on May 05 2009 - 11:01AM
the evp is after your voice, it has a garbled sound to it and then a male voice. Its not you for sure. I know your voice by now, I still have alot of audio to go through, Ive only gone through half. [blink]And I want to say thanks to everyone for there GREAT comments about the video!!!! [/blink]
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Rachael on May 05 2009 - 11:04AM
Ah, I will have to listen again then!
Thank YOU Matt, for posting it, it's a great video :)
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: mattevp on May 05 2009 - 11:05AM
Ive been having dreams about the house too, that night when I slept downstairs alone is stuck in my head, the house has left a scar in my soul. I want to go back again too, I would go again for sure.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Colleen2510 on May 05 2009 - 01:39PM
Wow that's kinda crazy about the dreams. I have had a couple and I haven't even been there yet. I've just been addicted to reading and learning about it ever since I learned of the murders a few years ago. I had a nightmare about the murders last night. I keep a dream journal and I had not been too long since writing my dream (nightmare) down when I read these posts! Crazy! Anyway I hope that if you guys get to go again that I will be able to make it.  :praying:  In my opinion you all did a great job and a very professional job with the investigation.   bo
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ro on May 08 2009 - 02:01PM
I'd love to take a few of you back one day with me and my team to investigate. And ohhhhhhhh  yeah this time we are gonna bring it!!!       :sign11:
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09 NEW EVP
Post by: mattevp on May 17 2009 - 08:27PM
Here is a new EVP from vallisca, When you slow it down you can hear what it is saying. Hes saying "Dont want to get in Trouble"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu6zJt9wFr0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu6zJt9wFr0)

THE CRAZY THING IS!!!
I WAS TELLING JOHN HOW THE BALL MOVED WHEN I WAS UPSTAIRS ALONE, THEN THE EVP FROM THE CHILD IS ONE SECOND LATER, ITS LIKE THE KID WAS TELLING ME NOT TO SAY IT OUT LOUD, WHY?????,
WHY WOULD HE OR SHE GET IN TROUBLE FOR MOVING THE BALL??AND WHO WOULD PUNISH THE CHILD?? MOST LIKELY THE PARENTS, HOPEFULLY NOT THE MURDERED!!!! ter
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ghost1 on May 17 2009 - 08:32PM
Here is a new EVP from vallisca, When you slow it down you can hear what it is saying. Hes saying "Dont want to get in Trouble"

Boy that is clear, great find.   =D>   I still have to go through mine yet, you have all this great stuff so chances are I do to.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Rachael on May 17 2009 - 08:38PM
Yipes!
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Jeepgirlgina on May 17 2009 - 08:41PM
Matt....awesome.  But I thought I heard: "I don't want to go"  But, then again I do not have a program to slow it down.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Tommyboy67 on May 18 2009 - 03:57PM
Amazing EVP Matt!
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: mattevp on May 19 2009 - 10:39AM
i made a quick video so no one needs to download it. :)
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Colleen2510 on May 19 2009 - 11:42AM
This is one great EVP!
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Ghost1 on May 22 2009 - 10:04PM
I'm still having technical difficulties with my main PC, and that is the one with all my software for EVP's pictures and videos editing.  Kind of dead in the water..... :055confused:

However I was playing with the video camera that was in the room running the same time the ball moved and the EVP that had caught something calling out Matt's name.  Well, after playing with the darn thing for hours I have found the same time frame on mine when Matt caught the , Ball moving and his EVP....... Well guess what, I have the EVP calling his name clear as a bell too!  Also, I kind of have the ball moving too.  I was the only one in the room at the time as you can see from Matt's video and I started to feel a presence so I slowly move my cam up away from the ball and paned around to see If I was alone.  Well, when I aimed the cam back down the ball was in a new location.......This is something I wouldn't have even noticed if it wasn't for Matt catching it.

So, now we have two cameras that have caught the same two anomalies.... Now that is same great evidence  =D>

I'll post my stuff as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: NightStalker on May 22 2009 - 10:49PM
So, now we have two cameras that have caught the same two anomalies.... Now that is same great evidence =D>

I'll post my stuff as soon as I can.

That is amazing evidence to have two diffrent people catch the same anomalies.  I'm looking forward to seeing your footage as soon as you can get it posted.

Great job guys!    =D>
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Rachael on May 22 2009 - 11:57PM
Right on John!  Woo hoo! 
Just what we were  :praying: for!
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Post by: Fiestyredd9 on May 24 2009 - 11:01AM
That is just awesome! I wanna go back
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: AfterForever on Jul 15 2009 - 07:25PM
I'm not sure if it's in this thread or not.I heard the EVP earlier and I hear the name James being spoken.Sorry if this is the wrong thread.I have to think about things before I let me fingers do the talking...just the way I do things.

Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Colleen2510 on Jul 19 2009 - 03:06PM
I just Luv this EVP! :headphones: 
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: The Shadow on Jul 19 2009 - 03:49PM
Great pics and topic
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Post by: Toad22 on Dec 07 2009 - 11:24AM
What is this? Every time i open this photo up i see it.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: jfloydian on Dec 07 2009 - 12:51PM
What is this? Every time i open this photo up i see it.

Looks like a face but it is just a visual trick. The lattice or whatever is in the background combined with the leaves in front make just the right shape to make it look like a distorted face. Nothing paranormal IMO.

*EDIT* upon looking closer what is another main visual stimulant here is the light coming through the back that makes it appear to be some sort of figure, but I am guessing its not. Who knows.
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: Rachael on Dec 19 2009 - 07:51AM
I think it is just a trick of the lattice/light/leaves too.... but it IS a pretty creepy image nonetheless!!
Title: Re: Villisca 4.25.09
Post by: LadyDarkness21 on Jan 01 2010 - 12:06AM
On the Video from Matt, that last evp that is not understandable almost sounds like someone saying something about being disturbed or not being disturbed. What do you think?