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Title: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Ghost1 on Nov 13 2008 - 10:03AM: I hope everyone had a great time last night, and got lot's of cool pictures. ;)
Even though cameras seemed to be acting up last night, both of mine where not working at all at times.

I have a few pictures that are kind of odd and I'm not 100% sure what caused it?

* The scroll bar to move the pictures left & right is on the very bottom of the post .

This first picture is just of the Congress Hotel Ballroom, I didn't see anything paranormal in it (yet) but I just think it's a good picture.

(http://www.bachelors-grove.com/DSCF2005s.jpg)

Now this one has me a bit puzzled, it has what looks to be like long motion blur, but yet the foreground is fine with no blur at all? Also there is some very, very odd things in this picture too....I have them in the closeup below. Now, I have no idea at all at what the heck caused this? cho

(http://www.bachelors-grove.com/DSCF1117s.jpg)

(http://www.bachelors-grove.com/odd_closeup.jpg)

Now this is some odd Double Exposure of some sort, however I never heard of a digital camera doing that before.

(http://www.bachelors-grove.com/DSCF1115s.jpg)

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Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Fiestyredd9 on Nov 13 2008 - 11:38AM: That place was awesome. And what great pics you got there. I haven't gone through mine yet. Too tired LOL
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Rachael on Nov 13 2008 - 11:46AM: That double exposure picture sure is strange!

Here's a couple of pictures of who you should look for in orbs in the basement of Odin's.... :^:
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Post by: Fiestyredd9 on Nov 13 2008 - 11:55AM: OMG I soo remember when you showed me those pics after taking them Now that i see him.
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Post by: MusicianMommy on Nov 13 2008 - 12:31PM: Those Congress photos are *really* odd! I know that my camera was acting up almost the entire time we were there - especially back by the curtain!

I haven't had the chance to look through mine yet - but now I'm even more excited to!
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Ghost1 on Nov 13 2008 - 01:26PM: Here is another one I've been looking at for a while, I lightened a black picture up, and adjusted the contrast and there now is a all black figure behind Adam by the door. I've been trying to figure out if it's a member or not, however no matter what I do to the picture to enhance it the figure stays 100% dark. Also a picture taken 1 second later facing the other direction have most of are group in it. This was the last picture I took as we where living the room.....and again my flash malfunctioned. Kind of odd though, when I pull the Exif data off the picture it says the flash went off?

Notice that Adams face and hands are quite noticeable, one of the enhancements I used brings out flesh tones.

Here is the original picture 1st, then the enhanced one and then a picture i had taken a minute before that has no shadow in it.

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Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Nov 13 2008 - 01:59PM: That's a neat one!

My best guess (going for the scientific stuff) is that there may have been someone still standing behind the curtain at the back of the room - there's space between that big thing and a door, and the lighting on the wall suggests that a flash MAY have gone off. Did your camera have a flash on it?

Barring that, it looks like the opening of Alfred Hitchcock Presents!
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Nov 13 2008 - 02:04PM: If I can backtrack a little, if someone behind the smaller area HAD taken the shot, it does seem like the shadow ought to be MUCH bigger, since it would have been at very close range.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Ghost1 on Nov 13 2008 - 02:07PM: Quote from: adamselzer on Nov 13 2008 - 01:59PM
That's a neat one!

My best guess (going for the scientific stuff) is that there may have been someone still standing behind the curtain at the back of the room - there's space between that big thing and a door, and the lighting on the wall suggests that a flash MAY have gone off. Did your camera have a flash on it?

Barring that, it looks like the opening of Alfred Hitchrooster Presents!

My flash malfunctioned again on this picture, otherwise you would have been fully lit, however I think it might be light from another members flash that was aimed in another direction. Because there are small reflections on some of the chairs and frame of the door from a dim light.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: MusicianMommy on Nov 13 2008 - 02:09PM: That is a rather odd shaped "shadow" - if that's what it actually is. I honestly can't figure out how you would have even gotten a shadow that large without having someone actually in the shot to cast it. Hmm...
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Post by: MusicianMommy on Nov 13 2008 - 02:15PM: Here's one that is baffling me. It's DEFINITELY a reflection of a person, though I'm trying to identify WHO it is, is ANYONE, from our group. The angles and how close the person seems to be standing to the mirror is what gets me... there's no one close enough to it for such a reflection, in my opinion...

(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p335/MusicianMommy/CongressHotel1-1.jpg)
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Post by: Rachael on Nov 13 2008 - 02:20PM: I can't figure that out either. Also, while I know the light on the wall may have come from another flash, I think it's pretty interesting that the only area that is lit by it encircles the.....guy...shadow... I don't know what. On the upside, if it WAS a flash, then ownder of said flash should have a photo of that exact spot, taken at the same time John took this. Make with the time John, then we can see if there's a match! Whether it's a persons shadow, or a person of shadow, it's the most densely black shadow I've ever seen.

And it does look just like the beginning of Hitch(ahem) Presents!

Many thanks to John and Adam for doing this for us! bo It was good to meet all you guys too! :Y:
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Ghost1 on Nov 13 2008 - 02:28PM: Quote from: MusicianMommy on Nov 13 2008 - 02:15PM
Here's one that is baffling me. It's DEFINITELY a reflection of a person, though I'm trying to identify WHO it is, is ANYONE, from our group. The angles and how close the person seems to be standing to the mirror is what gets me... there's no one close enough to it for such a reflection, in my opinion...

I adjusted your picture a bit to bring out the color more, but I really can't tell. This is the first time I've ever been there and I don't know the lay out....So I can't really tell where this person would have been standing..Now I know if it was a Bachelor's Grove picture I would have printed the picture and went back to find the angle and recreate it.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: MusicianMommy on Nov 13 2008 - 02:31PM: When I was looking at it, and did a zoom-in, it's VERY clearly the reflection of a guy... who, though, is BEYOND me. Qu
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Nov 13 2008 - 04:44PM: The reflection appears to be of the person in the left hand frame - it's blurry, the hair and jacket just about line up.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Ghost1 on Nov 13 2008 - 05:19PM: Quote from: adamselzer on Nov 13 2008 - 04:44PM
The reflection appears to be of the person in the left hand frame - it's blurry, the hair and jacket just about line up.

Adam is totally right, I never really looked at them before I was looking else where. When you look, it's the back of her coat with his face. Now that I'm looking at it I see it very clear.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: MusicianMommy on Nov 13 2008 - 08:15PM: OMG, you're totally right. emb It didn't even line up that way for me until now... *smacks forehead*
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Nov 14 2008 - 12:42PM: I stil think the Florentine shadow is probably someone behind the frame lit by another flash, but it sure freaked the security guards that I showed it to out !
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: MusicianMommy on Nov 14 2008 - 02:16PM: Hahaha, nice one Adam... way to make their jobs just THAT much more difficult. LOL
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Rachael on Nov 14 2008 - 03:03PM: Quote from: adamselzer on Nov 14 2008 - 12:42PM
I stil think the Florentine shadow is probably someone behind the frame lit by another flash, but it sure freaked the security guards that I showed it to out !

What is this frame you speak of? I don't get what you're saying, but I don't know the place very well.
The only thing I can think of that could have done this would be a prank by the guards. If there was a spotlight at the other end of the room the light could be diffused with something and a cutout would be put in front of it to project to the wall. That's what it looks like, a cutout! But, since there are other pictures of the same area with no shadow, and no one could have come in from the back and put it up there momentarily (that I'm aware of, at least), and a photo taken from that far away of any shadow would never produce such a crisp outline, or such densely black color, I am going to end this very long sentence by challenging Adam to a duel! I think this is the real deal Sir! :Y:
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Fiestyredd9 on Nov 14 2008 - 04:03PM: I can say that there was nothing on the table back there that would've made such an outline either. I spent a bit back there using the kleenex <napkins> off the table against that wall
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Nov 14 2008 - 04:31PM: Well, I DON"T think this one was a prank, or the shadow of anything that just happens to look like a person. But I think someone else may have been taking a shot from somewhere behind where John was (hence the flash on the chairs) and that someone was in THAT frame (but out of John's) to cast the shadow. The shadow DOES appear to be in a coat, which is probably more in line with those of us in the room than with most people who would be haunting it. But those are just disclaimers that I have to throw in; this is a damned good shot. The only real way to debunk would be if someone from further back in the room had a shot that showed both the shadow AND a person for it to be the shadow OF.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Nov 14 2008 - 07:32PM: Thanks to the kind permission of John, the shadow shot is now on The Weird Chicago Blog! http://www.weirdchicagoblog.com (http://www.weirdchicagoblog.com)
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Rachael on Nov 14 2008 - 08:36PM: Thanks Adam, I wasn't sure what you meant, I get it now :)
I take back the duel!!
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Rachael on Nov 14 2008 - 08:39PM: Also, are you sure we were about to leave when this was taken? Wouldn't we all have been at the end of the room with the shadow then? If everyone was behind John at this point then we must have standing at the far end by the video screen, right? Not sure if that matters, just pointing it out in case it does :)
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Nov 14 2008 - 09:01PM: Here's a diagram explaining the "Second photographer" theory. Grassy knoll not included. John's shot was taken from approximately 1/3rd of the way back from the west wall, where the shadow is. If there WAS a second photographer taking a shot at the exact same time, that second photographer SHOULD have a shot to match up. I'm not trying to play spoilsport or anything, but these are the sort of things we need to get out of the way with this sort of thing.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/3030313301_037790071b.jpg)
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Ghost1 on Nov 14 2008 - 09:21PM: The only problem with the theory of a person behind me taken a picture with someone in front of them is. There would have been a very long shadow across the floor, chairs and tables to the wall where you see the shadow. This shadow runs below the table level which means it couldn't have been from across the room.

Plus a shadow from that far back would have been huge on the wall.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Nov 14 2008 - 09:28PM: Posted on: Today at 08:21:00 PM Posted by: Ghost1

Plus a shadow from that far back would have been huge on the wall.

Probably depends on exactly where the person was in relation to the photographer. One of these nights I'll see if the effect can be reproduced!
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Jeepgirlgina on Nov 14 2008 - 09:32PM: Quote from: adamselzer on Nov 13 2008 - 04:44PM
The reflection appears to be of the person in the left hand frame - it's blurry, the hair and jacket just about line up.

I agree with you on that one Adam. That is just the reflection
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Jeepgirlgina on Nov 14 2008 - 09:42PM: OK John that is one of our best pictures. Love you grassy knoll diagram Adam, great theory. But it does look like the shadow is above the table. I am going to have to side with John. By the way Adam my hubby and I had a great time. Thank you for such an entertaining night.
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Post by: Jeepgirlgina on Nov 14 2008 - 09:44PM: BTW...I got nothing in my pictures. A lot of dust orbs...I thought about posting them just to piss John off.... LOL
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Ghost1 on Nov 14 2008 - 09:54PM: Quote from: Jeepgirlgina on Nov 14 2008 - 09:44PM
BTW...I got nothing in my pictures. A lot of dust orbs...I thought about posting them just to piss John off.... LOL

You could post your Orb picture Gina, I would just post my EVERYTHING you ever wanted to know about Orbs. (http://www.bachelors-grove.com/bgf/index.php?topic=144.0) link.......again. wh

I need the No Orb button from Adams bus.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Nov 14 2008 - 10:37PM: Another interesting thing is that the big rectangular thing NEXT to the shadow isn't flush with the wall; it's a room divider about 2-3 feet in front of a back door into a kitchen-type of place. The shiny gold thing near the shadow is a window in that door. It seems to me that a silhoutte of a person on the other side of the room illuminated from the other side SHOULD cast a shadow on the divider, not the wall behind it. And it the light is coming from that angle, the sort that would capture the silhouette of a person not in frame, the divider itself ought to be casting a shadow against the wall.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Nov 14 2008 - 10:59PM: And, for the sake of comparison to the shadow - here's what it keeps making me think of:
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Ghost1 on Nov 14 2008 - 11:07PM: Quote from: adamselzer on Nov 14 2008 - 10:59PM
And, for the sake of comparison to the shadow - here's what it keeps making me think of:

Yeah it does kind of look like that. :*:
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Theone321 on Nov 15 2008 - 01:52PM: wow i cant even think of what all that plasma was coming from and how they look like hands sweet aw-some find
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Rachael on Nov 16 2008 - 03:36PM: Did anyone else find anything in their pictures/footage/tape? I have one weird light pic from the Gold room that I can't figure out.

I was just looking at this one again, and I am by no means saying this as proof of anything paranormal, I just thought it was kind of neat... these four flares, energy, whatever this is look like they each represent an element. Clockwise from top left..air, fire, water, and earth. I like it!
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Colleen2510 on Nov 16 2008 - 06:36PM: I see what you mean Racheal! The left bottom one looks like a had that is holding onto a bar .....well it kind of looks like that to me anyway. ;)
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Jeepgirlgina on Nov 16 2008 - 06:57PM: This one kinda excited me with the orange glow on the floor but then after a second look..I think it is a reflection of the wall lamp
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Jeepgirlgina on Nov 16 2008 - 06:59PM: This one is for Adam....I remember you mentioning fairies. Well I think I see one in this picture.
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Post by: MusicianMommy on Nov 16 2008 - 10:11PM: Hahahaha... I think that faerie was FOLLOWING me all night... ROFL
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Colleen2510 on Nov 25 2008 - 12:34PM: What is that?
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Rachael on Nov 25 2008 - 04:09PM: MM's Tinkerbell Hoodie! =D>

(fun Freudian slip...I typed Tinkerball and had to correct it) emb
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: MusicianMommy on Nov 26 2008 - 01:09AM: I think it should be an official bulletin - if you are ghost hunting with me, and wind up with a fairy of any sort in your photos? Yeah - it's probably just one of my many TinkerBELL (haha Rachael) accessories.

I know, I know... I'm no longer *12* but Tink's FUN! LOL
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Nov 26 2008 - 12:21PM: Ken (my partner) and I did an analysis of the "shadow" picture, based on around the "second shooter" theory - and, unless a picture taken at the same second shows up to show us something we hadn't thought of, we're stumped on this one. The shadow isn't showing up where it ought to be if it's just me or someone standing off to the side. In particular, there doesn't seem to be a shadow on the tables or on the partition in front of the doors. This one's still a mystery!
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Ghost1 on Nov 26 2008 - 01:09PM: Quote from: adamselzer on Nov 26 2008 - 12:21PM
Ken (my partner) and I did an analysis of the "shadow" picture, based on around the "second shooter" theory - and, unless a picture taken at the same second shows up to show us something we hadn't thought of, we're stumped on this one. The shadow isn't showing up where it ought to be if it's just me or someone standing off to the side. In particular, there doesn't seem to be a shadow on the tables or on the partition in front of the doors. This one's still a mystery!

=D> That's Cool, It looking better and better for this picture....maybe we just might have caught something! We will have to plan another trip around January or February and go there again.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Nov 30 2008 - 12:51PM: STILL researching the silhouette shot. If anyone else has some pics from the Florentine that night, could you please send them along to chicagoghostsATgmailDOTcom ? I'm trying to plot out what the lay of the land was that night (it changes constantly). The dim light along the back wall MAY actually be coming from one of the exit signs, but I'm not sure. In any case, no "normal" explanation for the shot is holding up. Most theories have revolved around the shadow being ME, but the way I'm lit in the picture wouldn't cast a shadow in that direction. There's also the idea that it's John, but the shadow isn't holding a camera up, and he isn't casting a shadow on the table right in front of him.

One interesting thing is the angle of the shadow above the light fixture, which seems to be lit from below in both the shadow shot and the "before" shot. It's quite possible, even likely, that the light illuminating the back wall and the one that's causing the glare on the chairs could be two separate sources.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: MusicianMommy on Nov 30 2008 - 09:08PM: Adam, are you getting a headache over this one yet?!? Hehe. I have photos from the ballroom, but none of them have anything even CLOSE to what John got. Actually, I don't even think I have a shot of that specific area at ALL. Hmm... I'll have to run through them all AGAIN and let ya know. :)
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: adamselzer on Dec 01 2008 - 09:51AM: Aw, heck - I'm just about done investigating now. The best theory (and this is supported, or at least suggested, by the exif data on the photo) that the flash went off, but at very low strength. The shadows way the light hit the wal and the angle of the shadows from the light match up to the light/shadows from the shot where the flash DID go off correctly, and the shadows also pretty well indicate that the light on the back wall was coming from the camera. It's not my shadow - I'm lit from entirely the wrong angle. And it's not John's shadow - there's no shadow of him on the table.

All the analysis is now up at The Weird Chicago Blog (http://www.weirdchicagoblog.com) . I have no "real" explanation for the shot - congratulations, John!
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Post by: Jeepgirlgina on Dec 05 2008 - 04:05AM: Thanks Adam !!!! Great analysis. Ghost again I have to say....great picture.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Maggpie on Dec 07 2008 - 12:18AM: Quote from: Jeepgirlgina on Nov 16 2008 - 06:59PM
This one is for Adam....I remember you mentioning fairies. Well I think I see one in this picture.
Tee hee hee LOL LOL Always got to be the smart arse of the group don't ya LOL
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Jeepgirlgina on Dec 08 2008 - 11:23PM: Quote from: Maggpie on Dec 07 2008 - 12:18AM
Tee hee hee LOL LOL Always got to be the smart arse of the group don't ya LOL

Who me...... wh
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Ghost1 on May 29 2009 - 07:11PM: BUMP.... BUMP. Bumped up for new membrer to see.

Here is a great one from the Weird Chicago tour we had, I caught a amazing Shadow person.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: ixex on May 29 2009 - 11:47PM: Hi Ghost1,
If there is a picture, I do not know where to find it?
Thanks,
ix
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Post by: Ghost1 on May 29 2009 - 11:55PM: Quote from: ixex on May 29 2009 - 11:47PM

Hi Ghost1,
If there is a picture, I do not know where to find it?
Thanks,
ix

It's the fourth response in this post.....this is a 4 page post.
Title: Re: Our 1st Weird Chicago Tour
Post by: Colleen2510 on Jun 30 2009 - 01:29PM: I'm really glad that you bumped this Ghost. It's even more amazing to me this time around. And to me the pictures of the energy bursts is very close to be just as amazing as the shadow person pic. As I looked at those bursts of energy today I noticed some amazing things. First of all .... 2 of the energy bursts are connected to the bar across the top of the chairs and they both appear to be hands pulling the chairs out to sit in them. And second.... one of those that I speak of looks so much like a hand grasping the back of the chair and wrapping it's fingers around the bar to pull the chair out that it practically cannot be denied. I love these pictures and this thread!